A blog of my tube amp design and modification work. Primarily my own builds, but occasionally I feature work I've done on others' amps (with their permission.)
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Saturday, February 2, 2013

Dynaco Mk IV Recap


 Okay, these amps are straight up beautiful. If you're unfamiliar with them, they're basically power amps (with phase inverters) - a pair of EL34s pushed by a 7199 pentode/triode. The pentode is a gain stage while the triode is wired as a cathodyne phase inverter. As these were designed to be hi-fi amps the cathodyne is a great choice - fantastic balance and linearity well beyond the audio spectrum. While the long-tailed pair is de rigeur for guitar amps, pretty much every guitar amp manufacturer has used this in at least one notable build: Vox AC100, Fender Tweed Deluxe & Princeton Reverb, the classic Orange amps, and the early Sunn amps.

Dynaco sold them both assembled and as a kit the users could build themselves. The instructions are quite thorough, and you can check them out at this link. These amps are so quiet and reliable that they still have a strong following of devotees. I don't want to say fanatics, I mean, these are tubes after all so that's a little redundant. (How do you know if someone's a tube addict? Don't worry, they'll tell you.)

These units had sat for a few years and the customer was interested in using them both for Hi-Fi as well as guitar amps, and wondered if any mods would be necessary for guitar use. Nope! In fact, the very first Sunn amplifiers were just Dynaco preamps and power amps built into a new chassis and retubed. It's kind of a fascinating story, how The Kingsmen's cover of "Louie, Louie" changed the amp world forever. I'm not even remotely joking.

  

Moving on! The customer had built these himself back in the day and modified the (somewhat silly now) output sockets to standard wiring posts, as well as a convenient post for checking the bias. How clever is this company - a lot of amp builders and owners these days will put 1 ohm resistors between the power tube cathodes and ground as an easy way to measure idle plate (cough and screen cough cough) current. Dynaco ran both cathodes through a 13.5 ohm resistor to ground. Why such an odd value? Because when using the specified 6CA7/EL34 output tubes the bias measurement across this resistor is 1.56V, or as they say in the instruction manual, exactly what the voltage of a fresh D cell battery would be, so even if you weren't too solid on your multimeter skills, you had a standard you could compare to. Different tube types require a little bit of math but considering there are a couple Dynaco-devoted forums out there I'm sure someone else has done the math already.

  

The customer wanted to keep these original so I got a pair of CE Manufacturing cap cans. This company actually bought Mallory's factory and cranks out cap cans to their original specs. Can't get much more original than that! Dynaco calls these "quad caps" - there are four sections, so fair enough. One thing to note is that the capacitors that were in these were only rated for 500V, while the schematic calls for 525V rated caps. With today's higher line voltage, 525V is a necessary minimum, and many replacement cap boards use even higher rated caps. The reservoir capacitor here is 30 uF, which is a little low in the modern Hi-Fi world - with the GZ34 rectifier you could inch up to 60 uF - but these amps are incredibly quiet, so it's clear that more here really isn't necessary. If you're going to use them for guitar power amps, people report negative effects from excessive filter capacity.

There's actually a study some professor and/or grad students did where they "fixed" everything that was "wrong" with a Fender Tweed 5F6 Bassman - I'll update this when I track down the link - and they found that greatly increasing the filter caps they ruined the overdriven tone of the amp. You can design around massive filter caps if necessary - and for many modern high-gain metal-type amps it's a good idea to - but for classic guitar amps it's usually advisable to keep the filter caps close to the same size as they were originally. For Hi-Fi, of course, go nuts, just don't blow up your transformer if you're using a tube rectifier. Data sheets are your friends!

  

Here are the insides as they were originally. I only took pictures of one of these babies, but they were identical inside. There are a couple things to note: a 22 nF cap on the input and 100 nF caps in parallel with each filter cap. The 22n cap was installed to cut some bass as these had been used alongside a subwoofer, and the 100 nF caps were added to decrease the ESR of each filter stage. If you're having problems with excessive ripple, adding a film cap in parallel with your electrolytics can definitely help. Excessively large poly caps in parallel can lead to motorboating though - I've seen both "rule of 100" and "rule of 1000" for deciding how small the parallel film cap should be. This is another trick that can be handy in high-gain designs - we're talking amps with input sensitivities around ~20mV - but if you're building something like that then elevating and/or rectifying your heater supply is probably a more prudent place to start.You can't go wrong with an elevated humdinger, and if you can run your heaters at 12.6V instead of 6.3? Sheeeeeeeeeeeit. Rectifying might be easier if you're starting from scratch, but elevation is definitely necessary if you've got directly-coupled cathode followers.

Too far down the rabbit hole? Yeah, this never ends. You always have to say "good enough" inevitably, unless you've got bottomless pockets, endless time, and don't mind going insane. These Dynacos? Yeah, with the new filter caps you can't even tell that they're on and there's a small-signal pentode in there. That's a testament to how well Dynaco designed these - no crazy layout or handfuls of decoupling caps necessary, and it's straightforward enough that you could build it yourself. If only today's amp companies had a similarly high "good enough" threshold...

  

Okay, back to the plot. Here are the guts with the new quad caps, new electrolytics in the bias supply, and the input coupling cap removed (by request). It's kind of a pain to strip but again I have to say how much I like this 630V teflon-insulated silver-plated 22AWG from Apex Jr.

The bias supply had a surprise in it, dead center in the "before" guts picture. That little green box? Booyah, selenium rectifier that'd gone bad! Fortunately it had just gone leaky instead of bursting into a ball of what I'm told is the most horrific smelling halogen gases imaginable. I've smelled some horrible organohalogens so I'm morbidly curious, but they're not mine so I didn't blow them up. Oh god, I can still taste 1-heptyne. Not an organohalogen, but if burning tires were living things, 1-heptyne is what they would excrete out after binging at Taco Bell. Still, morbidly curious about the selenium rectifiers. That's a chemistry student for ya.


And a shot of the finished exterior. 

I don't know how many more good things I can say about these amps. They're easy to work on, well designed, well laid out... just great amps, both for Hi-Fi as well as for use with guitar. 

One important thing to mention about using a monoblock as a guitar amp is versatility. Easily 80% of a particular amp's tone comes from the preamp. When you compare a lot of schematics, the vast majority of tube guitar amps have cookie-cutter power amps - usually with a long-tailed pair, sure, but cathodyne designs have tons of fans too. You can make this amp sound like just about any guitar amp you want to just by switching preamps. Imagine that, going from a Plexi or an Engl to a Twin or an Ampeg with just one stomp on an AB box. Heck, you can even use modeling preamps, or hook a computer up and use something like Guitar Rig. Even the line out/effect send on an existing amp will work, but make sure that amp still has a speaker load connected.

If you were looking solely for a guitar amp - say you found a monoblock cheap (good luck, btw) - there are a couple tweaks you might like to make. If your distortion ideal is something like an Orange, well, you're golden here. If you're hoping for something more like a Marshall/Mesa, you'd probably want to add a sizeable grid stopper to the cathodyne and lower the coupling cap values to get a nice even grind instead of the crackly farty "Hey Hey My My" tone. Of course, that's assuming you're running at full volume. If you're not planning on deafening everyone at the venue, you'd probably be fine with these stock. The dynamics when playing with separate pre- and poweramps will be a little different because they won't share a power supply, so when you're hitting the power amp hard and the supply voltage is sagging on the output tubes, the preamp won't be affected. Neither bad nor good, just y'know, a little different... possibly not noticeably.

Two Neil Young references back to back. Now I really want to post a Sunn O))) link.

Anyway, to wrap up the Dynacos: phenomenal all around monoblock amps no matter what you do with them, and a real treat to work on.

Monday, December 31, 2012

AB165 Bassman Refurbishment & Modification

Okay, this is a friend's Bassman head which was nearly unusable - lots of ripple/hum and thanks to the death cap it would shock him occasionally when he completed a ground circuit by touching a microphone. Death cap indeed! He gave me carte blanche to modify it as I saw fit, stating that he was only interested in a great clean sound. I knew he was considering buying a Twin Reverb, so after I got the amp fixed up I resurrected the Blackface character of this amp (more like the AA864 Bassman) and he was thrilled with the result. He gave me permission to post the "in progress" photos I took on the condition that I include my original captions.

What follows is the email I sent, in its entirety.

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Hey, here's what's gone on so far.
* Took out 'death cap'
* 3 prong plug (will have to redo with thinner gauge cord)
* polarized accessory outlet flipped & rewired for correct polarity
* fuse moved to hot wire
* new 2A slo-blo fuse (I think the fuse in there was 15A)
* new pilot light bulb
* Changed the filter caps
* Changed the bias cap
* Changed the cathode bypass caps
* Took out FUCKING STUPID hi-cut caps that were on both channels
* Started testing coupling caps & replacing leaky ones - only 1 cap so far!


1. yep.

2. blurry shot of chassis.

3. & 4. they printed up a shitload of these and just kept using 'em. This is actually an AB165.

5. The only other marking I see inside the cabinet.


6. gutshot - that green wire is the new ground wire.

7. guts

8. guts - those cardboard tubes are the cathode bypass caps, and that red circular ceramic capacitor (just right of center... like I like my democrats) was bad as well.

9. they put a brass grounding strip behind all the pots. It would make more sense if it only contacted the chassis at one point, but whatever. Probably made assembly easier. these are the normal instrument controls.

10. bass instrument controls.

11. output, standby, power, fuse.

12. power, fuse, ground (does nothing), accessory outlet, power cord - doesn't fit the strain relief, so either I ream it and keep this thick-ass cord or hunt for a thinner one.

13. what the power switches looked like stock. The death cap is hiding.

14. why have I not been capitalizing consistently? anyway, yeah, this here looks fucking terrible and stupid to me, but it worked fine for 50 years so who's stupid now?

15. the bias board. 6 rectifier diodes, a bias cap and a bias diode hiding somewhat behind the cap.

16. the dog house. who's in there? is it stu?

17. nope, it's some big-ass filter caps. Notice the one on the left has reversed polarity? I did. It's supposed to. They put two of those big bastards in series, which gives you half the capacitance but double the voltage tolerance. So if you somehow generate 700V these would be like "cool, here's 35 uF."

18. you know, if you're advertising your electrolytic capacitors as being the fancy new "dry" ones, you know the ones that don't contain acid sloshing around.... damn you old. Also that 16 uF is on the schematic and layout as 8 uF, but apparently 16uF was always used.
19. underside. for my own reference. and my hand.

20. ooh, cauliflower!

21. NOT AS PRETTY, I KNOW. The black one on the end? Yeah, reverse polarity. These are also 100 uF (giving you 50 uF instead of the original 35 uF) but this is better, doesn't strain the PT or diodes, gives you better filtering, more punch, and seriously no one makes 70 uF caps. Electrolytics are +/- 20% tolerance so it probably doesn't matter at all. SUCK IT.

22. Hey, that looks the same!

23. New bias cap. So much tinier. This eyelet board is kind of a pain to solder to / desolder from, so shit ain't going to be perfectly symmetrical all the time. Eat a dick.

24. New cathode bypass caps.

25. New cathode bypass caps part two: Son of Cathode Bypass Caps. AAARGH SHITTY SOLDERING AT THE BOTTOM DON'T LOOK FUCK

26. New cathode bypass caps part three: The Return of the Son of Cathode Bypass Caps' Ghost - in 3-D!

27. Holy shit did they gob the solder on putting this bitch together. The two ....solders... on the left were done by me, the two on the right by some anonymous Fender/CBS employee who hated lead and wanted to use it all so there wouldn't be any left for anyone else. Ditto their use of solder flux, leaving nice wet-looking halos around each eyelet.

28. New coupling cap! But what value is it?! (0.1uF, 630V because I'm hardcore like that)

YEP. Not done yet, and I haven't found the bad cap in the normal instrument section, but the bass instrument section is fucking tits.

STILL TO DO:
* put in a proper bias control instead of the "bias balance" it has now
* proper blackface-era negative feedback
* take out redundant feedback caps around power tubes
* not sure if I'll do this, but depending on how it sounds I might change the phase inverter & power tube coupling caps to the typical blackface values. Normally it's a small coupling cap to the phase inverter which cuts the bass there and then large ones to the power tubes which lets the bass through later. As it is, the values here are backwards - letting the bass into the PI and cutting it before it gets to the power tubes. This might make it distort sooner. So I don't know. If I wanted to be a jackass I could just be all "...the power amp of a Twin!" but I'm not. Get off my lawn.


Told u I was hardcore.
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I fixed the things I mentioned in my "still to do", lowered the coupling cap to the PI and left the output coupling caps alone, and had to replace a pot or two and it was done. I don't think I took any more pictures though.

The AB165 is an interesting schematic - when you keep in mind Leo's plan was always "as loud as possible, never driven to distortion" then a lot of the seemingly-silly mods make sense. A global NFB loop on the previous Blackface Bassman wasn't "enough" NFB apparently so there were additional feedback caps from the plates to the grid. They kind of killed the "sparkle" and made the distortion tone worse.

While I'm talking about the NFB in this amp, on the AB165 they actually return it to the grid of the first LTP triode instead of the usual - attaching it to the tail. I converted it to the usual, which required switching the feedback resistors to 820R/100R and flipping the leads on the primary.

The AB165 also adds a virtual-earth mixer stage, which is a clever way to get separated outputs and I figured the local NFB around that tube was part of the amp's character so I left it alone.

The original "bias adjust" pot is a good idea if you're in the late 1960s and factories are still cranking out reliable tubes. Current production tubes are less spectacular - you can order them matched (on plate current draw I imagine, not transconductance though that would be a treat) but you can't assume anymore that just plunking in a new set of 6L6GCs (or some Russian military equivalent sold as a 6L6/5881-WTF) will be biased in the safe operating range.

Plus, "biasing an amp" has taken on its own cult status as THE ultimate operational factor of a guitar amp. If you hear a difference between 60% and 65% idle plate dissipation, great, more power to ya. The cynic in me suspects that the easier something is for guitarists to change themselves, the greater the perceived tonal reward - especially if there's no math involved. Brands of tubes, brands of capacitors... whatever floats your boat.

On the other hand, I have a sizeable stash of NOS tubes that I'll defend to the death, so I'm as full of it as anyone else.

This amp was a ton of fun and I owe my friend a debt of gratitude for trusting me to work on it and giving me permission to post these photos.